6/29/11

Cults Try Comedy

Desteni and the Zeitgeist Movement aren't funny tho.

Censored: Joe Rogan Bashes Zeitgeist


It looks like they are going to fail recruiting Joe Rogan as someone brought up that he mentioned Zeitgeist being debunked. Even if Joe Rogan knew that the Zeitgeist Movement was about designing a new socio-economic system, I would see something like this happening:



  1. internetjimjesus says:
    Joe Rogan is too smart for TZM/TVP. It will fail. If they do get him, big whoop. Hes not a scientist nor a scholar. Hes a comedian/MMA announcer. They need to stop this Scientology messiah complex where they get celebs to support it. How about getting scientists to support it? Ohh right, scientists will just tell them TVP is not scientific at all. It also doesnt help when you tell the scientists that peer-review is bullshit. So much fail.
  2. infowars says:
    haha..the rockefeller foundationrightphilanthropists
    they love humans so much that they founded hitlerhahaha
    ehat nice folks
  3. justintempler says:
    I saw the post on TZM so I dowloanded the show to listen for myself what was said. .
    The first thing Joe did was group TZM in with Scientologists and then tried to back off the comparison and said something like oh well its too late, Ive already made the comparison.
    Though Joe admitted to knowing about TZM and admit he was asked to speak, There was absolutely no indication that he even knows that Merola even made a second and third movie. The entire conversation about Zeitgeist centered around the mistakes in Merolas first film.
    Now if the only film Joe knows about is Zeitgeist The Movie, which was about 9/11 and you ask him to speak to that group on the 10th anniversary of 9/11 ???? ( Now if his intention is to embrace the 9/11 conspiracies, 9/11/11 is a perfect time to hold a 911 Twoofer rally.)
  4. LOL Merola is in that thread crying now. He probably never wouldve read that thread if he wasnt constantly stalking anti-tzm blogs.
  5. Mario Brotha says:
    I guess now VTV aka Neil Kiernan Stephenson is going to add him to the facebook blacklist if they find his facebook account lol.

Censored: Let Women And Children Die First

"Sounds like our current system. Survival of the fittest.

Thanks to Dr Mario for the vid." -James Kush
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There’s no point in saving anyone according to his logic if no one brought fishing rods and bait.
Mario Brotha
First of all, Fresco is not saying let all the women and children die, he simply states that if no one on a life raft could help navigate or procure food, chances of ANYONE’S survival would be drastically reduced. Secondly, Fresco is no longer associated with the Zeitgeist Movment, The Venus Project has separated itself over a month ago. This site completely fails in shinning any light on the true face of the movement, which is simply a growing population of people from all over the world that wants a sustainable future where everyone has what they need to live a healthy life. In so many words… it is not a cult. We have no leader, if Peter Joseph quit the movement tomorrow we would continue, because he is NOT our leader, just a guy who got the ball rolling.
Brian
Survival of the fittest, thats what TVP comes down to, just like every system before it, somebody has to die and RBE will choose who. Just like TZM says science authorizes control, moderation, hierarchy, they also want to control everything from child birth and to who gets to survive a shipwreck.
The venus project and zeitgeist want to brainwash kids behind their parents backs under the guise of “summer camps” @ about 5mins.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT7b4p7u20k#t=6m35s
Zeitgeist movement wants to control others because science recommends authority, control, hierarchy, moderation.https://zeitgeistmovements.wordpress.com/2011/06/16/zeitgeist-members-continue-to-get-brainwashed/
These are control mechanisms. Everything from birth control and child rearing, to authority and control and finally “triage”.
This site completely fails in shinning any light on the true face of the movement, which is simply a growing population of people from all over the world that wants a sustainable future where everyone has what they need to live a healthy life.
Not true. The Zeitgeist Movement has nothing to do with a sustainable future. It is based on 9/11 conspiracy, Christ Myth conspiracy, Jewish banker conspiracy, “science is divinity in action/science is the tool for functional spirituality, man is God, science recommends :control/authority/hierarchy/moderation, “economic hitman” conspiracy theory and finally it pretended like it was the activist arm of the venus project until it was exposed Jacque Fresco saying the Zeitgeist Movement are know nothing followers of Peter Joseph who should disband the worthless Zeitgeist Movement . So the true face of the movement has been exposed: It engaged in a public fight over money and control with what it had been proclaiming to be the salvation for all humanity, the Venus Project.
James Kush
Brian use your Brain,
Requiring that passengers on lifeboats know how to navigate and procure food is a waste of resources (I thought you wanted to conserve resources),
Lifeboats only have one purpose….
To keep people alive long enough for rescue ships to arrive. The rescue boats do the navigating. The rescue ships bring food.
justintempler

6/27/11

Censored: Is PJ Merola Ditching RBE?

The question was raised asking what happened to the question explaining the RBE “Basic Points” as it can not be found in the FAQ knowledge Base anymore, will they be advocating a new system that isn’t a Resource-Based Economy now or just fearmonger and say everything is going to collapse ?
Only time will tell.
Update: They just changed the name:
Albert says:
The Zeitgeist Movement is defined as a collection of slackers who are willing to put their lives on hold and support whatever Peter Joseph Merola decides is a “really cool idea” this month until such a time as said Mr. Merola decides it isn’t cool after all (ususally when the person who came up with the “really cool idea” treats Merola like some dog poo they stepped in) after which they wait patiently until the next “really cool idea” comes along. The movement loses some folks with each iteration until it will end with PJM and three other dudes meeting in someone’s mothers’ basement.
justintempler says:
No Mario if you read through the 5 items you’ll find Merola refers to the “Resource Based Economy” a lot but I guess this way the definition can become more “fuzzy” so an RBE can be whatever they want it to be. See this way everybody can have their own personal definition so even if Zeitgeisters hold conflicting views of what a RBE would look like they can still claim to all support an RBE.
I see that the Orientation Guide still hasn’t been updated. It has been well over 2 months past the split and the Orientation Guide still refers to TZM as the activist arm of The Venus Project along with it’s worship of Jacque Fresco and talk about circular cities.
internetjimjesus says:
RBE or not, shit is still retarded.

6/19/11

Zeitgeist: Demon Or Jesus?


I guess since Zeitards are flagging their videos, this makes them demon possessed and no longer Jesus Christ, but they both have beef with Jesus Christ ?

6/18/11

Desteni's New Cult Tactic


"It works like this: damage control spin doctor Darryl Thomas throws an anti-Desteni video onto this forum. Then the cult followers fall into line making videos trashing the anti-Desteni video, and each one of them dutifully posts the link to the video in the topic, thus demonstrating their obedience.


Interestingly, Destenians are required to block any anti-Desteni users from their channels, and none of these videos are officially linked as video responses to the videos they're aimed at. So it's basically a form of mass collateral attack, as opposed to direct response. Ingenious tactic, I must say.


The videos themselves are really boring as hell. I haven't been targeted yet, but I suspect it's only because I haven't posted an anti-Desteni video since this tactic began."

-Muertos

6/17/11

The Solar System Cults


When cults offer solutions from space, be aware.

Censored: VTV Should Do This

As a politician, I think VTV aka Neil Kiernan Stephenson should be taking some notes and think about stepping down as global moderator from the Zeitgeist Movement before he embarrasses himself even more, wait, that’s still happening. Anyways, after watching Anthony Weiner step down from congress, I decided to get the transcript from this event yesterday and re-write what was said and hope that VTV aka Neil Kiernan Stephenson uses it to make his public apology for being a total embarrassment to the freedom movement:
“Good afternoon. About 3 years ago, I sat in front of this same computer and asked people online for their help to take a chance on me in electing me to be in Congress. And then some years later, I asked those same people to join something that I played a part in turning into a cult. This was not honorable at all. I acted the way I did to fit in because I was always an odd ball in high school and could never fit in and look at the whole world now as high school because I never got a diploma. I could never mentally mature. I should have at least got that before I thought about running for anything or taken any position with authority over any organization that I always found myself ruining.
It is particularly humbling to see where I been and who I met, but at the end of the day, I’m a failure and leeched onto people to get to where I’m at now. I never forgotten those people that I used as steps either coming from the same struggle I come from personally. I tried my best in public school, but I failed my mother by not being the son she wanted me to be. 
The trailer life of Michigan is my story and I somehow force myself to feel proud of it when I know I shouldn’t. I’m here today to again apologize for the personal mistakes I have made and the embarrassment I have caused for real activists. I make this apology to the people I manipulated in order to get things my way, but I make this apology particularly to the critics I called trolls. I had hope to be able to continue the work that the people wanted me to do, to fight for the middle class and those struggling to make it. Unfortunately, the distraction I have created has made that impossible. So today I am announcing my resignation from the Zeitgeist Movement Moderation team, so my co-moderators can get back to work, people can choose a new representative, and most importantly, so that my reputation and I can try to heal from the damage I have caused.
I want to thank those who stood up to me and those who worked with me alike. They come from different places around the world, but fundamentally, we all agree, we want things to be better for humanity. They’re all great and I will miss them all as I focus more about getting my life in order. I also would like to express my gratitude to the youth as I find myself ashamed in my mid 30′s. There are people who have worked very hard and very long hours doing free labor for me while I was just collecting money online thru donations refusing to get a newspaper and look thru the classified section to get a job. Ultimately those people define the notion of service, it wasn’t me. I’d like to thank of course those people who’ve helped me, if it wasn’t for them, I wouldn’t have larped so much while being in the Zeitgeist Movement. The people who have volunteered, the people who have given advice, the many of people who have offered me good ideas, I promise to act on to better my life and my children’s lives as well as I have been neglecting them to only be popular online. 
This was a difficult period for me and I hope that it’s less difficult as I manage to try to find balance in my life. I got into politics to give a voice to the many who simply did not have one. Now I’ll be looking for other ways to contribute my talents so that we live up to that most Michigan and American of ideals. The ideal that a family, a community, and ultimately Earth is the one thing that unites us. The one thing that we’re all focused on. With help thru therapy and with hard work, I will be successful. 
Thank you.

6/14/11

Cult Leaders On Parenting


I don't think anyone should take lessons about parenting from parents who never spent time with their children or abuse their children and make them shave their heads.

6/10/11

Chad Addresses Desteni


 
That's right, they are cool bald people out there that are against cults and make blogs like I do. I figure I promote him like I did with Felida's blog. I watched this video yesterday and thought his thoughts were well put together trying to be civil with Desteni refusing to be love bombed by them while talking about how they try to recruit people to shave their heads for equality when he explains he does it for his own personal reasons. Enjoy.

6/9/11

Cult Leaders With Degrees?

I also doubt that Bernard Poolman has degrees [6:20] in marketing and law [as I was having a hard time finding this claim and only found commented on in this video] as I doubt Jacque Fresco has a PHD.

6/8/11

Cults Don't Like Wikipedia

Desteni doesn't like it when they are called out there and the Zeitgeist Movement doesn't it like it when they are called out there as well. When searching in Wikipedia, you will not find a "Resource Based Economy" or a "Equal Money System" page either, so therefore, none of these cults have solutions to offer.

6/7/11

The Stephon Marbury Alert

Darryl Thomas says:
When you read his latest blog, you can just see him getting more angry and insane:

Censored: Mihaela Zeitgeist Exposes Zeitgeist Movement

ZEITGEIST MODERATOR EXPOSES INTERNAL CULT CHARACTERISTICS OF ZEITGEIST MOVEMENT
"It seems as even the members who were the most extreme examples of Zeitgeist cult behavior have had a change of heart. Mihaela Zeitgeist, one of the most hardcore cultists of Peter Joseph, has turned her back on Peters fringe group and has now exposed the Zeitgeist Movement." -James Kush
I am aware about the situation between TZM and TVP. I will no comment that because my opinion doesn’t matter and because it will be a waste of time also.
I left TZM cause I felt betrayed, ignored, sad and even angry. Too many ugly conflicts, even dirty politics. Too many rules and no mercy - but only when it comes to “simple” forum users and ignored when some moderators disregarded them. I tried to to something about this and I was even attacked and wrong decisions have been made, without being consulted. I saw people getting more frustrated day by day. I saw people who joined the movement only cause they didn’t have a life, cause they had a need for power and titles, I saw people who left us and become our enemies, I saw people losing control and burning out, I saw abuse of power, nepotism, I even saw fear of simply telling the truth. And that scared me. And made me ask: is this worth? Don’t judge me: that all happened when I was working 12 hrs/day for tzm, translating, attending meetings, coordinating, moderating forum, etc. But my real concern was that we all forgot to laugh. I wanted to write my resignation but I couldn’t find the right words to express my concerns, my disappoint, my pain and disgust. So, I decided to first take a break and, with the time, I simply let it go. The best decision I ever made: I stopped neglecting my family and my son never saw me crying since then ;) . I also was not perfect. I remember when I could’t hear any criticism regarding TZM, Peter and J&R. But I changed and tried to be tolerant. I also made some wrong decisions but I looked back to them and I apologized and tried to fix them.I am still working on this :-) All of this, because of the wonderful, passionate, modest, intelligent, hard working people, without no desire of being front persons or having any title or privileges. For those wonderful people I came back. And I still think a RBE is the only solution. But I don’t think I am ready to be active again giving that I need to find my balance in my private life. (The situation between TZM and TVP doesn’t make things easier also.)
In other words: I missed you ♥.-Mihaela Zeitgeist
you dont even know what a cult is sorry but its true. i will only respond 1 time so dont think you can get under my skin you cant. there is several things i see here. i you seem to have alot of time try chess. you also have serious issues with self worth total low self esteem . i am not angry with your website but here is one statement TO SERIOUSLY THINK ABOUT. IN THE 40 YEARS ON THIS EARTH I HAVE LEARNED FROM MY MOTHER AND EXPERIENCE THERE IS ALWAYS 1 OR 2 PEOPLE THAT MAKE IT WORSE FOR THE REST YOU ARE ONE OF THEM. GET A LIFE
milo
“IN THE 40 YEARS ON THIS EARTH I HAVE LEARNED FROM MY MOTHER AND EXPERIENCE THERE IS ALWAYS 1 OR 2 PEOPLE THAT MAKE IT WORSE FOR THE REST YOU ARE ONE OF THEM.”
Also Fresco and Merola. They are clearly bad people ruining robomarxism for everyone while they compare cocks. Zeitgeist movement has always been a joke and still is, only more apparent.
Also “I saw people who joined the movement only cause they didn’t have a life, cause they had a need for power and titles, I saw people who left us and become our enemies, I saw people losing control and burning out, I saw abuse of power, nepotism, I even saw fear of simply telling the truth.”
Sounds like she’s talking about VTV
internetjimjesus
I agree, Zeitgeist is for people with no life. I have tried to have detailed discussions with pro-z people about how the world is supposed to operate without any money, but it always kept coming back to how every would need to play nice and get along, well people dont play nice. Money is a the prime motivator. These people need to find something worth doing some change that if brought about would provide a positive difference. Like for example, getting rid of the ability to patent a life form. Like having a true democracy with online voting of every citizen for every law passed. That would cause real change.
tomachi

6/6/11

"The Desteni Evangelium" Flagged

If you guys want to see the video that was reported on, here is where you can watch it. I will be trying to download videos from there because I realize that Desteni false flag there too:

6/5/11

Cults Have Monkey Obsessions

Cults from the Zeitgeist Movement [Michael Ruppert as an example] and Desteni believe in the 100th Monkey theory when it has been debunked and Jacque Fresco points this out which probably caused the public cult divorce and also, if you don't support TZM, then you're a monkey. All you have to do is ask Peter Joseph Merola:

6/3/11

Cults Defend Adolf Hitler


The Zeitgeist Movement will tell you that there is no difference between Ghandi and Hitler and Desteni will try to channel Adolf Hitler and defend him as well as Bernard Poolman use to call himself "Eagle".

Censored: Brandy Hume Getting Replaced?


The new female personality that has created a buzz goes by the name of Bunny White aka N. White, funny, the same way Brandy Hume aka TVPChallenge became popular and has her own site as well, it's as if she is copying Brandy Hume's style. I guess someone has to replace her. That’s what I think anyways, ever since the split, she’s been silent, I guess pissed off being stuck with the name TVPChallenge as someone new right afterwards step into spotlight. Before the public cult divorce, she did her best to debate with Jacob Spinney if you looked at her last videos on her channel and she got slammed back with this video by him and has suffered silently in failure and shame ever since:
It’s only a matter of time that she rages after being a reject in the Zeitgeist Movement, but this seem inevitable when you see that she was a failed Hollywood star and we may see a catfight soon. I think her 15 minutes are up tho.

Addendum:

justintempler says:
I had a feeling this would happen. Brandy who hasn’t made a new video in over 3 months. Claimed she was backed up and moved the discussion in response to JacobSpinney to her blog.
My first few posts went off without a hitch. Then today after writing a 4,000 character response that took 2 hours to write to our friend Ed Visser aka TerraRubicon, my post “magically” disappeared from her blog. (and yes I verified it posted correctly)
I guess the pressure was too much, the move to the blog was just to create a place were it was much easier to preach to the choir and engage in censorship against her detractors.
That’s OK I’d rather watch Praxgirl. Praxgirl puts lead in your pencil and she’s got brains to boot.

  • internetjimjesus says:
    THE BATTLE OF THE FEMALE SPOKESPERSONS