"The Zeitgeist Movement largely collapsed last year but the negative effects of associating with ZM is still taking its toll on members.
Zeitgeists Douglas Mallettes so called “Scandinavian Lecture Tour” has been plagued by cancelled shows and poor press as a result of his still close ties to TZM. Had Mallette not been involved with Zeitgeist Movement, I doubt he would have gotten the negative attention and critique that ultimately led to his euro-trip failure. Mallette wanted to feed off the cultish ways of TZM members to further his own personal causes such as his “Scandalavian Tour”.
Now we discover a serious blow to another Zeitgeist Member. Sadly, this member has been hurt by the court system for his affiliation with Zeitgeist. Yes indeed Neil Kiernan or “VTV” as he calls himself, the former spokesman for the Venus Project and Zeitgeist Movement announced recently that the defense is using “THE ZEITGEIST MOVEMENT” against Neil:
Thrusting yourself into the public spotlight on behalf of Zeitgeist Movement does not seem like a smart thing to do considering all the negative coverage as a result of constant violent acts and threats/rants by the Zeitgeist Membership against elite and others whom they deem “worthless”. Plus not to mention everybody knows Zeitgeist Movement is a movie cult." -James Kush
This is why I have said it before and I will say it again. While this approach is interesting, it is far ready for prime time. The voices of reason will be drowned out by pissed off beta males who are just angry that they were constantly outdone by better people then them. If you analyze the psychology of Mallette and Neil you will see that they were outsiders their whole life and have many character flaws which make them unsuitable for any public face for any “movement”.
By the way, a movement is seldom the brainchild of one person, like Peter but one of those shifts that come about by natural social causes. Take OWS for example, it was spontaneous and there is no central figurehead. Here, you see people wanting to lead so maybe they will be rulers in any future world tailored to THEIR worldview.
Make no mistake about it, associate publicly with TZM, commit career suicide, the tin foil hat crowd and the people angry at “the system” are not where your energies should be, to do so is to engage in delusion. I implore anybody associating with TZM to do so at their own risk, furthermore, if you still continue to associate, you better make sure you are not just a part of the Peter Joseph movie street crew. Peter is not god, he is not a guru, stop treating him like one.
Though sometimes the tactics of this blog is nasty and unfair, it does provide a good view when it comes to how week the intellectual footing is that TZM stands upon. If TZM had been run more professionally, like not having a professional DANCER running things, and been able to police it’s self better when it came to the likes of Neil VTV, then it would not be such a failure to launch.
Nobody will trust TZM because of the critical errors it made in its infancy and association with toxic personalities that almost always ruin something that had potential.
Anybody willing to found any organization who reads these words should use TZM as an example of what happens when you have zero regards for professional image and lack of any standards or qualifications for management. Also, don’t name a god damn movement after a movie that actively alienates the same people you are trying to reach out for, you all in TZM have been repeating the “movies are not the movement” line for years and for years nobody has bought it.
If I was Peter I would immediately kill the Zeitgeist Movement, keep making your movies, and focus on founding a small invite only think tank that can cultivate professional relations and engage in studies for policy makers, activists and other customers to do with as they please.
Also, stop banking on the “collapse” I know TZMers think that society must collapse in order to bring about their utopia, but thats just foolish and narrow minded.
TZM, my condolences on your continuous failures to launch, there were people who were willing to assist you in not making these mistakes, in fact, I can remember discussing with people about how this was the destiny of TZM if they did not heed reccomendations that were presented to them.
But what do I know? I’m just an observer.
Observer
“Take OWS for example, it was spontaneous and there is no central figurehead.”
While it’s true there was no central figurehead, it wasn’t spontaneous. It was created by a group called AdBusters. “The Adbusters Media Foundation is a Canadian-based not-for-profit, anti-consumerist, pro-environment organization.” They are also responsible for Buy Nothing Day and TV Turnoff Week.
internetjimjesus
Well of course, like all things there are initiators, however, they don’t have nearly the same aura around them as TZM and Ad-Busters does not speak on behalf of OWS.
Observer
Right, just wanted to clarify that though.
internetjimjesus
Wait, I thought his ex-wife [assuming that's who he means by "they"] supported a RBE, I guess she changed her mind, well that’s what Neil Kiernan Stephenson said in the Russian chatroom with VenusProjection after calling her lazy [roughly translated] and damn, Douglas Mallette was making that money lol.
If VTV looses coustody of his kids, he really is out of excuses for moving to North Dakota for the job boom. Or, if he still wants to live on the dole, VTV can eat for free if he moves to Las Vegas:
The establishment is a hospital theme restaurant: waitresses (“nurses”) take orders (“prescriptions”) from the customers (“patients”). A tag is wrapped on the patient’s wrist showing which foods they order and a “doctor” examines the “patients” with a stethoscope. The menu includes “Single”, “Double”, “Triple”, and “Quadruple Bypass” hamburgers, ranging from 8 to 32 ounces (230 to 910 g) of beef (up to about 8,000 calories), all-you-can-eat “Flatliner Fries” (cooked in pure lard), beer and tequila, and soft drinks such as “Jolt” and Mexican-bottled Coca-Cola made with real sugar. Customers over 350 lb (160 kg) in weight eat for free if they weigh in with a doctor or nurse before each burger. Beverages and to-go orders are excluded and sharing food is also not allowed for the free food deal.
(it says Arizona, but they recently closed that location and moved to Downtown Las Vegas on Fremont Street.
internetjimjesus
The Zeitgeist Movement will cost you your job too:
